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		<title>By: Danny Bloom</title>
		<link>http://www.greenprophet.com/2009/07/22/10809/climate-refugee-underground-desert/comment-page-1/#comment-873</link>
		<dc:creator>Danny Bloom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 04:04:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Danny,

I left a comment on your Greenprophet post on UDLU, but it didn&#039;t show up yet, or immediately. I guess it is set up for comment moderation. Anyway, I hope it shows up -- I included several links to stories that I have come across in my UDLU research.

Hope all is well on your side of the globe. It&#039;s been raining cats and dogs in NYC.

Cheers,
Reynard Loki</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Danny,</p>
<p>I left a comment on your Greenprophet post on UDLU, but it didn&#8217;t show up yet, or immediately. I guess it is set up for comment moderation. Anyway, I hope it shows up &#8212; I included several links to stories that I have come across in my UDLU research.</p>
<p>Hope all is well on your side of the globe. It&#8217;s been raining cats and dogs in NYC.</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Reynard Loki</p>
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		<title>By: Reynard Loki</title>
		<link>http://www.greenprophet.com/2009/07/22/10809/climate-refugee-underground-desert/comment-page-1/#comment-872</link>
		<dc:creator>Reynard Loki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 16:21:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here are some interesting snippets of my recent research. Any comments/suggestions  would be greatly appreciated. Contact me at reynardloki@gmail.com.

1) &quot;Growing Food in a Desert City Using Rainwater and Urban Runoff,&quot; Brad Lancaster, Chelsea Green Publishing, July 11, 2009, http://www.alternet.org/water/141141/growing_food_in_a_desert_city_using_rainwater_and_urban_runoff_/

2) &quot;Subdivisions,&quot; Ross Racine, July 28, http://www.swiss-miss.com/2009/07/subdivisions.html
&quot;New York artist Ross Racine creates aerial views of fictional suburbs, examining the relation between design and actual lived experience.&quot; I thought that this kind of layout could be useful in developing UDLU communities.

3) &quot;Europe Eyes Africa for Solar Power,&quot; Paul Voosen, Scientific American, July 22, http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=solar-thermal-power-europe-meditteranean-sea&amp;sc=DD_20090722
&quot;By 2050, massive solar thermal plants, which concentrate the sun&#039;s energy using mirrors to heat steam-generating media, would sprawl across the Sahara and Middle East.&quot; If so, these locales would be perfect places for UDLU communities.

4) &quot;Why Our Next Fuel Source May Come from Our Own Waste,&quot; Greg Breining, Yale Environment 360, July 13, http://www.alternet.org/water/141209/why_our_next_fuel_source_may_come_from_our_own_waste/
Using your own waste to help fuel your UDLU! Awesome.

5) &quot;Rain Zone Moving North,&quot; Christie Nicholson, Scientific American, July 2, http://www.scientificamerican.com/podcast/episode.cfm?id=rain-zone-moving-north-09-07-02&amp;sc=DD_20090702
&quot;the now arid Galapagos Islands had a very wet climate about 400 years ago.&quot; Looks like UDLUs will be more necessary in the southern climes.

6) &quot;Migration and climate change: A new (under) class of travellers,&quot; The Economist, June 25, http://www.economist.com/world/international/displaystory.cfm?story_id=13925906
&quot;Victims of a warming world may be caught in a bureaucratic limbo unless things are done to ease—and better still, pre-empt—their travails.&quot;

7) &quot;Green Power Takes Root in the Chinese Desert,&quot; Keith Bradsher, July 2, New York Times, http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/03/business/energy-environment/03renew.html
&quot;This oasis town deep in the Gobi Desert along the famed Silk Road and the surrounding wilderness of beige sand dunes and vast gravel wastelands has become a center of China’s drive to lead the world in wind and solar energy.&quot;

8) &quot;New Washing Machine Uses Only 1 Cup of Water,&quot; Alastair Jamieson, The Telegraph (UK), June 25, http://www.alternet.org/water/140818/new_washing_machine_uses_only_1_cup_of_water_/
&quot;The appliance, which could save billions of litres of water a year, has been developed at the University of Leeds.&quot;

For a regularly updated list of related articles, check www.udlu.org.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here are some interesting snippets of my recent research. Any comments/suggestions  would be greatly appreciated. Contact me at <a href="mailto:reynardloki@gmail.com">reynardloki@gmail.com</a>.</p>
<p>1) &#8220;Growing Food in a Desert City Using Rainwater and Urban Runoff,&#8221; Brad Lancaster, Chelsea Green Publishing, July 11, 2009, <a href="http://www.alternet.org/water/141141/growing_food_in_a_desert_city_using_rainwater_and_urban_runoff_/" rel="nofollow">http://www.alternet.org/water/141141/growing_food_in_a_desert_city_using_rainwater_and_urban_runoff_/</a></p>
<p>2) &#8220;Subdivisions,&#8221; Ross Racine, July 28, <a href="http://www.swiss-miss.com/2009/07/subdivisions.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.swiss-miss.com/2009/07/subdivisions.html</a><br />
&#8220;New York artist Ross Racine creates aerial views of fictional suburbs, examining the relation between design and actual lived experience.&#8221; I thought that this kind of layout could be useful in developing UDLU communities.</p>
<p>3) &#8220;Europe Eyes Africa for Solar Power,&#8221; Paul Voosen, Scientific American, July 22, <a href="http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=solar-thermal-power-europe-meditteranean-sea&amp;sc=DD_20090722" rel="nofollow">http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=solar-thermal-power-europe-meditteranean-sea&amp;sc=DD_20090722</a><br />
&#8220;By 2050, massive solar thermal plants, which concentrate the sun&#8217;s energy using mirrors to heat steam-generating media, would sprawl across the Sahara and Middle East.&#8221; If so, these locales would be perfect places for UDLU communities.</p>
<p>4) &#8220;Why Our Next Fuel Source May Come from Our Own Waste,&#8221; Greg Breining, Yale Environment 360, July 13, <a href="http://www.alternet.org/water/141209/why_our_next_fuel_source_may_come_from_our_own_waste/" rel="nofollow">http://www.alternet.org/water/141209/why_our_next_fuel_source_may_come_from_our_own_waste/</a><br />
Using your own waste to help fuel your UDLU! Awesome.</p>
<p>5) &#8220;Rain Zone Moving North,&#8221; Christie Nicholson, Scientific American, July 2, <a href="http://www.scientificamerican.com/podcast/episode.cfm?id=rain-zone-moving-north-09-07-02&amp;sc=DD_20090702" rel="nofollow">http://www.scientificamerican.com/podcast/episode.cfm?id=rain-zone-moving-north-09-07-02&amp;sc=DD_20090702</a><br />
&#8220;the now arid Galapagos Islands had a very wet climate about 400 years ago.&#8221; Looks like UDLUs will be more necessary in the southern climes.</p>
<p>6) &#8220;Migration and climate change: A new (under) class of travellers,&#8221; The Economist, June 25, <a href="http://www.economist.com/world/international/displaystory.cfm?story_id=13925906" rel="nofollow">http://www.economist.com/world/international/displaystory.cfm?story_id=13925906</a><br />
&#8220;Victims of a warming world may be caught in a bureaucratic limbo unless things are done to ease—and better still, pre-empt—their travails.&#8221;</p>
<p>7) &#8220;Green Power Takes Root in the Chinese Desert,&#8221; Keith Bradsher, July 2, New York Times, <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/03/business/energy-environment/03renew.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/03/business/energy-environment/03renew.html</a><br />
&#8220;This oasis town deep in the Gobi Desert along the famed Silk Road and the surrounding wilderness of beige sand dunes and vast gravel wastelands has become a center of China’s drive to lead the world in wind and solar energy.&#8221;<br />
 <img src='http://www.greenprophet.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif' alt='8)' class='wp-smiley' /> &#8220;New Washing Machine Uses Only 1 Cup of Water,&#8221; Alastair Jamieson, The Telegraph (UK), June 25, <a href="http://www.alternet.org/water/140818/new_washing_machine_uses_only_1_cup_of_water_/" rel="nofollow">http://www.alternet.org/water/140818/new_washing_machine_uses_only_1_cup_of_water_/</a><br />
&#8220;The appliance, which could save billions of litres of water a year, has been developed at the University of Leeds.&#8221;</p>
<p>For a regularly updated list of related articles, check <a href="http://www.udlu.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.udlu.org</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Danny Bloom</title>
		<link>http://www.greenprophet.com/2009/07/22/10809/climate-refugee-underground-desert/comment-page-1/#comment-867</link>
		<dc:creator>Danny Bloom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 14:29:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reynard Loki in NYC has now seen this post and I hope he will post some updates on what is going on with this UDLU idea and some links, too. I have heard that the New York Times DOT EARTH blog is interested in underground living ideas for climate issues, and Mr Loki&#039;s ideas might get written up there in future, too. But this story first appeared here. Bravo, Greenprophet, for getting this story going....

Maurice, I don&#039;t think UDLUs are for everyone or even intended for mass migration living. But it is an interesting concept and the design is cool.

Who&#039;s your cousin? Names! names!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reynard Loki in NYC has now seen this post and I hope he will post some updates on what is going on with this UDLU idea and some links, too. I have heard that the New York Times DOT EARTH blog is interested in underground living ideas for climate issues, and Mr Loki&#8217;s ideas might get written up there in future, too. But this story first appeared here. Bravo, Greenprophet, for getting this story going&#8230;.</p>
<p>Maurice, I don&#8217;t think UDLUs are for everyone or even intended for mass migration living. But it is an interesting concept and the design is cool.</p>
<p>Who&#8217;s your cousin? Names! names!</p>
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		<title>By: Maurice Picow</title>
		<link>http://www.greenprophet.com/2009/07/22/10809/climate-refugee-underground-desert/comment-page-1/#comment-869</link>
		<dc:creator>Maurice Picow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 11:34:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Human nature is what it is , hon; especially in a place like Oklahoma - even with all them tornados !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Human nature is what it is , hon; especially in a place like Oklahoma &#8211; even with all them tornados !</p>
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		<title>By: Karin Kloosterman</title>
		<link>http://www.greenprophet.com/2009/07/22/10809/climate-refugee-underground-desert/comment-page-1/#comment-868</link>
		<dc:creator>Karin Kloosterman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 09:19:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How much does he want for it? Maybe he hasn&#039;t yet found the right kind of buyers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How much does he want for it? Maybe he hasn&#8217;t yet found the right kind of buyers!</p>
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		<title>By: Maurice Picow</title>
		<link>http://www.greenprophet.com/2009/07/22/10809/climate-refugee-underground-desert/comment-page-1/#comment-871</link>
		<dc:creator>Maurice Picow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 07:12:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Living underground is not really the answer, however. My cousin built the modern version of &quot;that little old sod shanty on the plains&quot; in Norman Oklahoma about 25 years ago; in which only one side is exposed.

While it is great for cooling in the summer and warmth in the winter (he also has a Franklin Stove to provide heat), trying to sell that place is a bit problematic, as he has found out - it&#039;s like selling the land, and throwing in the house for free!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Living underground is not really the answer, however. My cousin built the modern version of &#8220;that little old sod shanty on the plains&#8221; in Norman Oklahoma about 25 years ago; in which only one side is exposed.</p>
<p>While it is great for cooling in the summer and warmth in the winter (he also has a Franklin Stove to provide heat), trying to sell that place is a bit problematic, as he has found out &#8211; it&#8217;s like selling the land, and throwing in the house for free!</p>
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