Comments on: Sea Water Hydro Pump from Med to Dead Sea Needs Rethink

By: Tafline Laylin

Tafline Laylin — Wed, 02 Jan 2013 22:57:03 +0000

In reply to Jan. Thanks... we'll look into it :)

By: Jan

Jan — Sun, 30 Dec 2012 13:19:56 +0000

More information about “blue energy”.

Osmotic power

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osmotic_power

By: Jan

Jan — Sun, 30 Dec 2012 13:15:38 +0000

Why this plan not combined with a “blue energy” plant?

Blue Energy

http://www.wetsus.nl/research/research-themes/blue-energy

By: Ziggy Popacapolis

Ziggy Popacapolis — Wed, 04 Jul 2012 23:03:23 +0000

Solar distillation & desalination would solve these concerns of cross-contamination as well as concerns for energy consumption. I have heard no one say “We are running out of Sunshine”, ever.

Think of a simple Salt Farm pond with a dome placed over it to contain the moisture in the air till it gets drawn off by the cool surface of an air well or Atmospheric water generator as is commonly used to grab the 10% RH of the Morning Air.

If there are concerns of other contaminants, develop a BioChar Industry to provide more filtration material as a waste of Power Generation (Producer gas)
And if that proves to be too insufficient in flow, use Methane also generated with the wastes of the new Agricultural industries in these regions to get their GPM where they want it at.

Producer Gas generation makes BioChar as a waste.
Methane Production makes Compost as a waste.
When the two are blended and amended with simple fertilizers or manures they make an excellent product for a rapidly growing Agricultural sector.
The wastes from a renewable Energy Industry could very well be all the Dirt you will ever need.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terra_preta

By: Frank

Frank — Tue, 12 Jun 2012 08:35:57 +0000

It would indeed be eco and profitable to let the Jordan waters run along the river and to a lesser extent irrigate farming in the valley but then one needs alternative water supplies for Haifa and Galilee generally. This should not be a big problem with desalination plants on the coast using gas for their energy for the moment; but plannning for wind and solar energy in twenty years’ time.

By: maggie

maggie — Mon, 11 Jun 2012 19:20:59 +0000

Surely, it would be much less costly and less environmentally damaging for the Israeli government to allow the Jordan River to run into the Dead Sea the way nature intended? I have never come across that option being considered in the press yet. Are those words forbidden to say for some reason?

By: Frank

Frank — Sun, 22 Apr 2012 21:04:06 +0000

It has never been a problem to design a Med-Dead tunnel say 4m in diameter (London Tube concrete segment lined mature technology) to drop a mere 50 m (water flows from the Lake District to Manchester on 1/3000 gradient)and to run a hydro power plant at the shore of the Dead Sea within the evaporation rate of the Dead Sea whether constantly, or at volume in peak hour demand when the advantage of hydro plants is instant reactions to populations using soap opera advertising breaks on television to use toilets or boil a kettle.

The real problems are the chemistries of [Med or Red]sea and the Dead Sea is different and could lead to the profitable minerals precipitating in the lake instead of the industrial lagoons of the extraction plants. More important besides the eco-questions in the main article, the area is notoriously part of the Great Rift Valley and subject to earthquakes as in 1927(?) which are not welcome to investors.
Any talk of the Red -Dead canal or piped power scheme has more to do with drinking water for Amman than developing the Arava – and hasa salt disposal problem. It makes far more safe sense to build solar energy power on the Gulf of Eilat/Aqaba with desalination there and then pipe the fresh water to Arava agriculture by gravity and pump it by solar power to the Jordanian towns that are historically “desert ports” and now have outstripped their own local wells.