John – what’s your point, can you explain further? Most open-minded liberals come from Christian states, so Christianized that they don’t even realize they are Christian states. There are other ways of building societies based on “other” religious values one finds in the Middle East – be it upon the first and original monotheistic state (Judaism – and the foundation of modern law by the way) or the third which is Islam. Having spent a lot of time in Israel I can say that the people here do offer much more freedom of choice and freedom of expression to the other, more so than in the so-called liberal and social country in Canada where I was born and raised, and in Europe where I have travelled extensively.

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