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		By: Ms Rianne C. ten Veen		</title>
		<link>https://www.greenprophet.com/2011/02/live-car-free-existence/#comment-13828</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Mar 2011 22:32:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Re: &quot;we’re constantly told we NEED things we don’t and I honestly don’t think we need cars&quot; - if it truly was a *need* then how on earth did mankind survive for many thousands of years without them? It&#039;s a *want*, one often considered to provide convenience, pleasure etc; fine, but still a *want*! Convincing ourselves it&#039;s anything more is just trying to justify our indulgence (Prophet Muhammed PBUH didn&#039;t have his era&#039;s equivalent of permanent transport, but borrowed and shared - camel, horse, donkey - whatever was most appropriate for particular journey) :-) My 2p. In peace, Rianne]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: &#8220;we’re constantly told we NEED things we don’t and I honestly don’t think we need cars&#8221; &#8211; if it truly was a *need* then how on earth did mankind survive for many thousands of years without them? It&#8217;s a *want*, one often considered to provide convenience, pleasure etc; fine, but still a *want*! Convincing ourselves it&#8217;s anything more is just trying to justify our indulgence (Prophet Muhammed PBUH didn&#8217;t have his era&#8217;s equivalent of permanent transport, but borrowed and shared &#8211; camel, horse, donkey &#8211; whatever was most appropriate for particular journey) 🙂 My 2p. In peace, Rianne</p>
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		By: Karin Kloosterman		</title>
		<link>https://www.greenprophet.com/2011/02/live-car-free-existence/#comment-13725</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Mar 2011 16:16:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[We are all deviants. Let&#039;s celebrate. Love your sum-up, Arwa.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are all deviants. Let&#8217;s celebrate. Love your sum-up, Arwa.</p>
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		By: Arwa		</title>
		<link>https://www.greenprophet.com/2011/02/live-car-free-existence/#comment-13718</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Mar 2011 15:18:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks to everyone for sharing their views and experiences- it really fascinates me how people either got into driving as see it as natural or just never bother

@rianne: people totally DO overestimate the freedom of driving. My little sister who does drive quickly stopped enjoying driving once she got her license and now see it as a&#039;(necessary?) drain on her resources...

@Jay: why not give it a try. Maybe for a day or so and once you get over the initial shock- you&#039;ll really see the advantage of being able to relax on your way to work, get healthier and interact with people who would never normally cross your path. 

@Jen: totally agree- when I was at uni I&#039;d spend my time on the train catching up with my friends/reading/sleep and it was well worth it! In this modern world, we&#039;re constantly told we NEED things we don&#039;t and I honestly don&#039;t think we need cars so it was a natural decision. 

@Taf: We may have to miss out on certain things by not having a car but we totally get to see other things. I always say that the best way to know a city is by using it public transport :)

@Karin: That&#039;s the things about cars, the more there is of them the less sense they make- they get less convenient, more expensive etc...whilst public transport is great and I loved the trains in Israel. Amazing!

@miriam: A woman after my own heart :) I think sometimes people are just annoyed that we&#039;re happier without a car even though they think we shouldn&#039;t be.. less hassle, less responsibility, more cash to spend of things I actually want to spend them on... we have every reason to be happier without a car! :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to everyone for sharing their views and experiences- it really fascinates me how people either got into driving as see it as natural or just never bother</p>
<p>@rianne: people totally DO overestimate the freedom of driving. My little sister who does drive quickly stopped enjoying driving once she got her license and now see it as a'(necessary?) drain on her resources&#8230;</p>
<p>@Jay: why not give it a try. Maybe for a day or so and once you get over the initial shock- you&#8217;ll really see the advantage of being able to relax on your way to work, get healthier and interact with people who would never normally cross your path. </p>
<p>@Jen: totally agree- when I was at uni I&#8217;d spend my time on the train catching up with my friends/reading/sleep and it was well worth it! In this modern world, we&#8217;re constantly told we NEED things we don&#8217;t and I honestly don&#8217;t think we need cars so it was a natural decision. </p>
<p>@Taf: We may have to miss out on certain things by not having a car but we totally get to see other things. I always say that the best way to know a city is by using it public transport 🙂</p>
<p>@Karin: That&#8217;s the things about cars, the more there is of them the less sense they make- they get less convenient, more expensive etc&#8230;whilst public transport is great and I loved the trains in Israel. Amazing!</p>
<p>@miriam: A woman after my own heart 🙂 I think sometimes people are just annoyed that we&#8217;re happier without a car even though they think we shouldn&#8217;t be.. less hassle, less responsibility, more cash to spend of things I actually want to spend them on&#8230; we have every reason to be happier without a car! 🙂</p>
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		By: Miriam		</title>
		<link>https://www.greenprophet.com/2011/02/live-car-free-existence/#comment-13716</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Mar 2011 14:51:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I never did learn to drive, and at 56, I&#039;m not likely to either. I understand what Arwa means about feeling like a social deviant of some kind because we don&#039;t drive - I&#039;ve had that kind of reaction from others myself. But life sans cars still looks good.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never did learn to drive, and at 56, I&#8217;m not likely to either. I understand what Arwa means about feeling like a social deviant of some kind because we don&#8217;t drive &#8211; I&#8217;ve had that kind of reaction from others myself. But life sans cars still looks good.</p>
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		By: Karin Kloosterman		</title>
		<link>https://www.greenprophet.com/2011/02/live-car-free-existence/#comment-13708</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Mar 2011 09:12:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t own a car, but I do have access to my husband&#039;s if I need one. I used to be crazy about driving, but now live in a country where you are crazy to drive, especially in the cities and with gas at about $2 a liter. Ride bikes, bus, walk, train and taxi.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t own a car, but I do have access to my husband&#8217;s if I need one. I used to be crazy about driving, but now live in a country where you are crazy to drive, especially in the cities and with gas at about $2 a liter. Ride bikes, bus, walk, train and taxi.</p>
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		By: Tafline Laylin		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Mar 2011 08:28:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I absolutely love driving: drove across the United States many many times, sometimes alone, sometimes with others. But I don&#039;t drive anymore. a) there&#039;s the expense... I&#039;m tired of being a slave to big business, b) there&#039;s emissions - don&#039;t want to be a part of that anymore, at least not a big part of it, and c) I kind of like that I have to think a little more carefully about how I&#039;m going to get around. Does it restrict my range of motion - particularly in countries that don&#039;t have public transportation? Absolutely. Am I OK with that? You betcha. I simply make the choice not to live where it&#039;s necessary to have a car. In fact, I&#039;m visiting such a place right now, so I&#039;m taking a bicycle... maybe I&#039;ll get some air in my lungs :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I absolutely love driving: drove across the United States many many times, sometimes alone, sometimes with others. But I don&#8217;t drive anymore. a) there&#8217;s the expense&#8230; I&#8217;m tired of being a slave to big business, b) there&#8217;s emissions &#8211; don&#8217;t want to be a part of that anymore, at least not a big part of it, and c) I kind of like that I have to think a little more carefully about how I&#8217;m going to get around. Does it restrict my range of motion &#8211; particularly in countries that don&#8217;t have public transportation? Absolutely. Am I OK with that? You betcha. I simply make the choice not to live where it&#8217;s necessary to have a car. In fact, I&#8217;m visiting such a place right now, so I&#8217;m taking a bicycle&#8230; maybe I&#8217;ll get some air in my lungs 🙂</p>
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		By: Jen Garr		</title>
		<link>https://www.greenprophet.com/2011/02/live-car-free-existence/#comment-13704</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Mar 2011 05:53:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I applaud you for taking a stand against the &quot;need&quot; for a car!  

Though I do think that driving is an important skill to have tucked away, especially for a woman.  

We did the math at home and figured out that it&#039;s about a 40% savings for me to take the train to work every day (price of gas vs train ticket prices).  It&#039;s 40 minutes of quality time each way for reading, working or sleeping - I won&#039;t give that up too quickly!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I applaud you for taking a stand against the &#8220;need&#8221; for a car!  </p>
<p>Though I do think that driving is an important skill to have tucked away, especially for a woman.  </p>
<p>We did the math at home and figured out that it&#8217;s about a 40% savings for me to take the train to work every day (price of gas vs train ticket prices).  It&#8217;s 40 minutes of quality time each way for reading, working or sleeping &#8211; I won&#8217;t give that up too quickly!</p>
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		By: Jay B.		</title>
		<link>https://www.greenprophet.com/2011/02/live-car-free-existence/#comment-13698</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Feb 2011 14:52:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Honestly I cannot imagine myself not to drive a car to work. Despite of that roads for bikes are quite safe I won’t recommend this kind of transport for my kids either. I like to use bike during the weekend when there is a time to relax and enjoy the free time. Maybe my habits will change soon; who knows?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Honestly I cannot imagine myself not to drive a car to work. Despite of that roads for bikes are quite safe I won’t recommend this kind of transport for my kids either. I like to use bike during the weekend when there is a time to relax and enjoy the free time. Maybe my habits will change soon; who knows?</p>
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		By: Ms Rianne C. ten Veen		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Feb 2011 11:53:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well done! I don&#039;t drive either. I did get my driving licence when I was 18 or so as it was part of &#039;necessary life skills set&#039; and drove for a couple of years. In the Netherlands it&#039;s much more normal not to have a car and not having one doesn&#039;t have the stigma it does in the UK (where using public transport seems to be regularly considered a means of last resort). When living in Belgium I lost numerous hours getting lost or looking for a suitable parking space. I believe people overestimate the freedom a car gives (you&#039;re tied to costs: mercy of petrol prices, MOT, road tax, car insurance, parking costs, car maintenance, car depreciation/ saving for a newer one; you have to make sure to know the road, find a parking space) and underestimate the freedom not having a car (or 2) gives (never need to know the way - just buy a train ticket &#038; the train takes you there - no high fixed costs - many families now spend more on feeding their car than feeding their family! - and no need to remember to check the water, oil). Even taking a significant number of expensive taxi rides is still cheaper than a car. And with lower fixed costs means we don&#039;t need to focus on getting a far-away job that pays lots to pay for the car. Interesting how we now on average live much further away from our work/ amenities than before, meaning the total time investment in getting there and back has barely changed... i.e. we don&#039;t have more time for life with a faster means of transport.
Do keep us posted on how you get on without a car! In peace, Rianne]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well done! I don&#8217;t drive either. I did get my driving licence when I was 18 or so as it was part of &#8216;necessary life skills set&#8217; and drove for a couple of years. In the Netherlands it&#8217;s much more normal not to have a car and not having one doesn&#8217;t have the stigma it does in the UK (where using public transport seems to be regularly considered a means of last resort). When living in Belgium I lost numerous hours getting lost or looking for a suitable parking space. I believe people overestimate the freedom a car gives (you&#8217;re tied to costs: mercy of petrol prices, MOT, road tax, car insurance, parking costs, car maintenance, car depreciation/ saving for a newer one; you have to make sure to know the road, find a parking space) and underestimate the freedom not having a car (or 2) gives (never need to know the way &#8211; just buy a train ticket &amp; the train takes you there &#8211; no high fixed costs &#8211; many families now spend more on feeding their car than feeding their family! &#8211; and no need to remember to check the water, oil). Even taking a significant number of expensive taxi rides is still cheaper than a car. And with lower fixed costs means we don&#8217;t need to focus on getting a far-away job that pays lots to pay for the car. Interesting how we now on average live much further away from our work/ amenities than before, meaning the total time investment in getting there and back has barely changed&#8230; i.e. we don&#8217;t have more time for life with a faster means of transport.<br />
Do keep us posted on how you get on without a car! In peace, Rianne</p>
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		By: Meme Mine		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Feb 2011 17:48:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Climate Change Postmortem: “climate fatigue”

When all was said and done, the following example sums up this level of mass insanity that we were dealing with,  before climate change died when Obama dropped it from his State of the Union Speech:
“A group of over 200 environmentalists were in an auditorium listening to a symposium about climate change, i.e. global warming or climate disruption. One of the speakers asked, “If I could instantly produce a genie with a magic wand to stand here before you today. And if, that genie could wave his magic wand and voila….carbon dioxide would no longer be a greenhouse gas that produced uncontrollable global warming….How many in this room would be happy, satisfied and pleased?” Two people out of two hundred hesitatingly raised their hands. Of the others, some smirked, some laughed and some yelled out, “No, no. Hell no.””
Greenzism 2011? Almost!
*Note: The Republican Majority voted to pull American IPCC funding on Feb20/11 and there are rumblings of federal charges being laid as a demonizing ploy for the neocons. Nice job boys!
Meanwhile, the UN had allowed carbon trading to trump 3rd world fresh water relief, starvation rescue and 3rd world education for just over a quarter of a century of climate control instead of needed population control. 
REAL planet lovers are happy the crisis was averted.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Climate Change Postmortem: “climate fatigue”</p>
<p>When all was said and done, the following example sums up this level of mass insanity that we were dealing with,  before climate change died when Obama dropped it from his State of the Union Speech:<br />
“A group of over 200 environmentalists were in an auditorium listening to a symposium about climate change, i.e. global warming or climate disruption. One of the speakers asked, “If I could instantly produce a genie with a magic wand to stand here before you today. And if, that genie could wave his magic wand and voila….carbon dioxide would no longer be a greenhouse gas that produced uncontrollable global warming….How many in this room would be happy, satisfied and pleased?” Two people out of two hundred hesitatingly raised their hands. Of the others, some smirked, some laughed and some yelled out, “No, no. Hell no.””<br />
Greenzism 2011? Almost!<br />
*Note: The Republican Majority voted to pull American IPCC funding on Feb20/11 and there are rumblings of federal charges being laid as a demonizing ploy for the neocons. Nice job boys!<br />
Meanwhile, the UN had allowed carbon trading to trump 3rd world fresh water relief, starvation rescue and 3rd world education for just over a quarter of a century of climate control instead of needed population control.<br />
REAL planet lovers are happy the crisis was averted.</p>
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