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	Comments on: Luz Rises Again as BrightSource for California	</title>
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		By: William Naylor		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[William Naylor]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[Of course the funding was approved:
Luz was a limited partnership with the partners being a mixture of politicians of USA and israel. The names were all kept secret. I would be shocked if BrightSource wasn&#039;t set up the same. Lots to hide so no single member wants to own up to their past crimes.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course the funding was approved:<br />
Luz was a limited partnership with the partners being a mixture of politicians of USA and israel. The names were all kept secret. I would be shocked if BrightSource wasn&#8217;t set up the same. Lots to hide so no single member wants to own up to their past crimes.</p>
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		By: William Naylor		</title>
		<link>https://www.greenprophet.com/2010/10/luz-rises-again-as-brightsource-for-california-solar/#comment-217621</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[William Naylor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2014 01:35:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.greenprophet.com/2010/10/luz-rises-again-as-brightsource-for-california-solar/#comment-217614&quot;&gt;William Naylor&lt;/a&gt;.

I forgot to say that it&#039;s no wonder they changed the name after screwing over so many people and families under the name of LUZ. Well I guess it wasn&#039;t nuff said last time.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.greenprophet.com/2010/10/luz-rises-again-as-brightsource-for-california-solar/#comment-217614">William Naylor</a>.</p>
<p>I forgot to say that it&#8217;s no wonder they changed the name after screwing over so many people and families under the name of LUZ. Well I guess it wasn&#8217;t nuff said last time.</p>
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		By: William Naylor		</title>
		<link>https://www.greenprophet.com/2010/10/luz-rises-again-as-brightsource-for-california-solar/#comment-217614</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[William Naylor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2014 01:13:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I worked as a welder in the pipe dept. for LUZ and as a mason for LUZ construction management during the late 1980&#039;s. I was working on the kramer junction site when unknown to me they were illegally dumping carcinogenic therminol contaminated soil near the corner closest to Mojave Calif. when heavy winds caused a &quot;blowout&quot; and I was saturated with so much therminol contaminated soil that I was bleeding from several orifaces and nearly died. My lungs permanently injured and they settled out of court for $500k but instead of paying me they filed chapter !! re=orginization and were given 6 months to sort out debts. they used underhanded tactics to avoid paying not only myself but several others who were harmed by their actions and II still haven&#039;t recieved any of the settlement promised even nbow after more than 2 decades. They are a bunch of crooks. I also saw a documentary on the cancer cluster at mojave Ca. and realized that when LUZ buried the therminol at that particular site they may have helped cause the cancer cluster. They say environmental friendly but I say LUZ is a corporate monster hell bent on exploiting whatever and whoever they can to profit.  nuff said.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I worked as a welder in the pipe dept. for LUZ and as a mason for LUZ construction management during the late 1980&#8217;s. I was working on the kramer junction site when unknown to me they were illegally dumping carcinogenic therminol contaminated soil near the corner closest to Mojave Calif. when heavy winds caused a &#8220;blowout&#8221; and I was saturated with so much therminol contaminated soil that I was bleeding from several orifaces and nearly died. My lungs permanently injured and they settled out of court for $500k but instead of paying me they filed chapter !! re=orginization and were given 6 months to sort out debts. they used underhanded tactics to avoid paying not only myself but several others who were harmed by their actions and II still haven&#8217;t recieved any of the settlement promised even nbow after more than 2 decades. They are a bunch of crooks. I also saw a documentary on the cancer cluster at mojave Ca. and realized that when LUZ buried the therminol at that particular site they may have helped cause the cancer cluster. They say environmental friendly but I say LUZ is a corporate monster hell bent on exploiting whatever and whoever they can to profit.  nuff said.</p>
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		By: California Solar Engineering		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[California Solar Engineering]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Nov 2010 16:24:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[All of these incentives etc are simply muddying the waters and keeping people from understanding what the true cost of the energy we use is. They keep us from being smart consumers and they keep renewables from being competitive.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All of these incentives etc are simply muddying the waters and keeping people from understanding what the true cost of the energy we use is. They keep us from being smart consumers and they keep renewables from being competitive.</p>
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		By: steven chandra		</title>
		<link>https://www.greenprophet.com/2010/10/luz-rises-again-as-brightsource-for-california-solar/#comment-9822</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[steven chandra]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Nov 2010 08:41:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m pretty sure BrightSource is working with Bechtel on this project, if that&#039;s relevant at all.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m pretty sure BrightSource is working with Bechtel on this project, if that&#8217;s relevant at all.</p>
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		By: Susan Kraemer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Susan Kraemer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Nov 2010 19:24:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.greenprophet.com/2010/10/luz-rises-again-as-brightsource-for-california-solar/#comment-9751&quot;&gt;jerry&lt;/a&gt;.

Actually, the 30% cash grants (only up to Dec 2010 deadline) were only &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dsireusa.org/incentives/incentive.cfm?Incentive_Code=US13F&#038;re=1&#038;ee=1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;passed in the 2009 Recovery Act&lt;/a&gt; - stimulus bill - under the Obama administration, although the the 30% solar tax credits themselves were passed  by the Democrats (and much derided by the Republicans as Christmas tree trimmings/&quot;pork&quot;) by sneaking them into bank Bailout bill in 2008. 

And the 2005 Federal loan guarantee program was deliberately left unfunded by Bush, at least for solar. It finally got funded (activated) &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dsireusa.org/incentives/incentive.cfm?Incentive_Code=US48F&#038;re=1&#038;ee=1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;under Obama in 2009&lt;/a&gt;, with the first loan guarantee ever for solar going to Solyndra. 

Thanks, you are correct about the dry cooling, I was thinking of another company in this solar rush to the finish line!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.greenprophet.com/2010/10/luz-rises-again-as-brightsource-for-california-solar/#comment-9751">jerry</a>.</p>
<p>Actually, the 30% cash grants (only up to Dec 2010 deadline) were only <a href="http://www.dsireusa.org/incentives/incentive.cfm?Incentive_Code=US13F&amp;re=1&amp;ee=1" rel="nofollow">passed in the 2009 Recovery Act</a> &#8211; stimulus bill &#8211; under the Obama administration, although the the 30% solar tax credits themselves were passed  by the Democrats (and much derided by the Republicans as Christmas tree trimmings/&#8221;pork&#8221;) by sneaking them into bank Bailout bill in 2008. </p>
<p>And the 2005 Federal loan guarantee program was deliberately left unfunded by Bush, at least for solar. It finally got funded (activated) <a href="http://www.dsireusa.org/incentives/incentive.cfm?Incentive_Code=US48F&amp;re=1&amp;ee=1" rel="nofollow">under Obama in 2009</a>, with the first loan guarantee ever for solar going to Solyndra. </p>
<p>Thanks, you are correct about the dry cooling, I was thinking of another company in this solar rush to the finish line!</p>
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		By: jerry		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jerry]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Nov 2010 10:07:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[two corrections on your history. first the DOE loan guarantee program is actually a Bush administration program. BrightSource applied for the loan guarantee long before Obama became your green president. It became associated with the Obama stimulus when the program was expanded but let&#039;s be serious - how many companies have gotten loan guarantees for solar projects ? (answer: 2). second Brightsource planned the project with dry cooling already from the 2007 application to the california energy comission - you can look it up on the CEC website.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>two corrections on your history. first the DOE loan guarantee program is actually a Bush administration program. BrightSource applied for the loan guarantee long before Obama became your green president. It became associated with the Obama stimulus when the program was expanded but let&#8217;s be serious &#8211; how many companies have gotten loan guarantees for solar projects ? (answer: 2). second Brightsource planned the project with dry cooling already from the 2007 application to the california energy comission &#8211; you can look it up on the CEC website.</p>
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